Will Apple Become Better Than Windows?

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What are everyone's opinions on this?
Now I know that Windows is the most used and relied-on Desktop OS but Apple has IOS which is the most relied-on Mobile OS.
I have mixed thoughts, how about you? 😀
 
Even though Macs predate Windows, more people use Windows over any other operating system these days so I don't thin Mac OS will ever surpass Windows. Heck I don't even see it surpassing Linux or it's many flavors.
 
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Ravenfreak said:
Even though Macs predate Windows, more people use Windows over any other operating system these days so I don't thin Mac OS will ever surpass Windows. Heck I don't even see it surpassing Linux or it's many flavors.
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Tbh, as a desktop OS, it actually surpasses Linux: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide


While it has a loud and passionate community, Linux isn’t as large as a desktop OS as they think they are.

Though to caveat that, it is used as a custom OS for a lot of hardware, especially in the enterprise market. So if you buy something like a NAS, you’re using Linux, but it’s not the same as using it as a desktop OS.
 
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Grungie said:
Tbh, as a desktop OS, it actually surpasses Linux: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide


While it has a loud and passionate community, Linux isn’t as large as a desktop OS as they think they are.

Though to caveat that, it is used as a custom OS for a lot of hardware, especially in the enterprise market. So if you buy something like a NAS, you’re using Linux, but it’s not the same as using it as a desktop OS.
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I 100% agree.
 
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I think when you’re insulated in a certain community, it can give you an impression that something is more popular than it actually is or vice versa.
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If you went to an Android forum for example that's thriving it will definitely seem like a popular choice when in reality Apple is very popular too and it's based on personal preference so you're right and I like your view point 🙂
 
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Fait said:
If you went to an Android forum for example that's thriving it will definitely seem like a popular choice when in reality Apple is very popular too and it's based on personal preference so you're right and I like your view point 🙂
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My "favorites" are the PC gamers whose hobbies all involve them sitting behind their desk, and they think the world revolves around that. "Why would anyone have a TV? You can do that on your computer", "why do I need a tablet? I'm already at my computer". etc etc.
 
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I doubt Apple will ever truly win the percentage battle simply due to how much of the world is poor and that is not a market Apple is aimed at. Like how Android crushes Apple in the mobile market, but most of that is the poorer side of the world. This is also reinforced by Apple still being unable to truly dominate any of the richer markets either. They are not winning in the market they focus on and have little to no chance of winning in the much larger market that they aren't aimed at. The bigger threat to Windows and Android is Linux in my opinion as it is capable of a 1:1 battle for market shares, but for the time being, both seem very safe from that at the moment.
 
Uncrowned said:
I doubt Apple will ever truly win the percentage battle simply due to how much of the world is poor and that is not a market Apple is aimed at. Like how Android crushes Apple in the mobile market, but most of that is the poorer side of the world. This is also reinforced by Apple still being unable to truly dominate any of the richer markets either. They are not winning in the market they focus on and have little to no chance of winning in the much larger market that they aren't aimed at. The bigger threat to Windows and Android is Linux in my opinion as it is capable of a 1:1 battle for market shares, but for the time being, both seem very safe from that at the moment.
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I think Apple knows their target audience is in the creative arts industry, and not really focused on not being #1. I do wish PC gamers would stop referencing “rich people” when most gamers rigs cost more than the average Mac.

I doubt Linux would win, as one of the things Linux is “supposed” to be against is commercialism. Outside enterprise versions, companies like Canonical are criticized for becoming commercial.

Linux fragmentation is also not helping.
 
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Grungie said:
I think Apple knows their target audience is in the creative arts industry, and not really focused on not being #1. I do wish PC gamers would stop referencing “rich people” when most gamers rigs cost more than the average Mac.

I doubt Linux would win, as one of the things Linux is “supposed” to be against is commercialism. Outside enterprise versions, companies like Canonical are criticized for becoming commercial.

Linux fragmentation is also not helping.
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I fully agree with you there.
 
Grungie said:
I think Apple knows their target audience is in the creative arts industry, and not really focused on not being #1. I do wish PC gamers would stop referencing “rich people” when most gamers rigs cost more than the average Mac.

I doubt Linux would win, as one of the things Linux is “supposed” to be against is commercialism. Outside enterprise versions, companies like Canonical are criticized for becoming commercial.

Linux fragmentation is also not helping.
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I agree with you on that, but I meant "rich" as basically everyone in the United States and Europe essentially (and of course some other places). The 1st world is vastly outnumbered by those who cannot afford to choose the phone brand they get to own.

Linux on the other hand is entirely true, the OS does more harm than good to itself to becoming a mainstream OS. I know many people jump behind the Steamdeck helping to push Linux into the market, but I'm not entirely sold that a game console will cause other software devs to start making Linux apps for the computer OS.
 
Uncrowned said:
I agree with you on that, but I meant "rich" as basically everyone in the United States and Europe essentially (and of course some other places). The 1st world is vastly outnumbered by those who cannot afford to choose the phone brand they get to own.

Linux on the other hand is entirely true, the OS does more harm than good to itself to becoming a mainstream OS. I know many people jump behind the Steamdeck helping to push Linux into the market, but I'm not entirely sold that a game console will cause other software devs to start making Linux apps for the computer OS.
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The rich people comment was based more on my common experience with PC gamers, which is ironic when their GPU alone costs more than the average Mac user’s computer. It’s like the computer equivalent of saying a Mercedes driver is flaunting his wealth, but that guy with the more expensive F150 Platinum isn’t.

Though back on track…

I don’t take Linux people seriously when they think it’s going to take over Windows in the home computer market. If you see the links I posted earlier, it’s such a minuscule percentage, even trailing behind Apple. There has to be some drastic changes somewhere to cause that many people to switch. I also think that because they hang out with a bunch of other Linux users and are more insular, it causes them to think it’s much more popular/common than it actually is. If you hang out with a bunch of creative arts types, you’re also gonna think everybody owns Macs.

People have also been saying “Linux will take over Windows” since the 90’s, and at this point, it’s been 30 years, eventually right?

I also don’t think the gatekeeping nature of the Linux community is going to help. There’s this duality of “we’re going to have more users than Windows” but also say “we don’t need normies using Linux”. You can’t have something be inaccessible while simultaneously be the most popular.

It’s something that’s common in a lot of niche communities where they claim they want more people, but actually don’t at the same time. It’s very counterintuitive.
 
Personally, I don't see it happening with Apple beating Microsoft in the next 50 years if we are still here. Most people are making use of Windows, it's only few that are making use of Apple products. It's same thing Sony tried to beat Microsoft but that's not going to happen.
 
Heatman said:
Personally, I don't see it happening with Apple beating Microsoft in the next 50 years if we are still here. Most people are making use of Windows, it's only few that are making use of Apple products. It's same thing Sony tried to beat Microsoft but that's not going to happen.
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Are we talking about computers or game consoles? If it’s game consoles, Xbox has never outsold PlayStation.
 
In the graphics business world, the Mac is already a better product than Windows and has been for about 35 years or so. When I started out working in advertising and marketing, everyone was using Macs and I'm not sure if that's changed or not, but I know that Mac is really reliable for creating graphics and not having to worry about the system crashing like it does with Windows.
 
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